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Meet the REAL Border Collie

13 Nov 2022

Border Collies and Working Sheepdogs are now a permanent fixture of family life. While they’re among the most popular breeds, they often struggle to integrate into modern lifestyles..

On one hand, they represent the ideal dog-human bond – faithful, helpful, wise; on the other they are often described in owners’ guides as demanding and even manipulative. Who IS the real Border Collie? And how can we bring out the best for ourselves and them so that our partnership with them may flourish?

This Live Presentation and 7-day discussion will (re-)introduce you to the Border Collie, address some myths about the type, and offer some practical suggestions for more harmonious living.


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Our SEEING WITH NEW EYES Live Presentation and 7-day forum are a unique opportunity to explore understanding to a new level. Learning will revolve around the Live Presentation with recommended reading and a closed Forum for the next 7 days where questions and further discussion can be stretched.


Presentations will be at 1700 GMT/UTC on 13 Nov 2022. Participants can join at 1650 to familiarise with the technology. A camera is not necessary, but please join with your mic muted. This will NOT be recorded but taking notes is definitely encouraged. 

The room will be closed at 1705 late arrivals will not be able to join.

Recommended reading before the Presentation will benefit all participants.

Attendance to the Presentation is required for attendance to the Discussions Forum. Slides used in the Presentation will be available to view in the Forum. 

Details of the Presentation and recommended reading will be posted in the Forum. This opens 24 hours before the presentation when you will receive an email invitation.


The Presenters are Kay Laurence and Frances McCormack experienced at living and learning with all sorts of collies.

Tighearnan with a few of his best friends. One of the happiest collies alive.

The Discussion Forum

This will be hosted on our Voyage of Discovery: a Discourse Forum.

Very often we need more time to absorb the material and let the important questions rise to the top over a few days. Learning to see with new eyes is often about revisiting our current thinking, listening to alternate voices and measuring it against new ideas. Inevitably doubts will arise and we may need to make adjustment or realise we did not need glasses at all and our view was right on track. 

The Forum will be open for 7 days after the presentation. It will then be closed and all posts deleted.

Both Kay and Frances will be attending the forum to continue the discussions, add more material and recommended resources.

This is not an opportunity for private tuition although individual issues can be discussed.

Recommended Reading

Wondering if this is for you? More Reading:

50 Years a Student of Sheepdogs

When we are open to the invitation, our Collies teach us much more than we teach them. An homage to these Masters of our Learning.

Things You Should Know

Some popular misconceptions about Border Collies debunked.

Confused by Collies?

Our life with Collies is often beset by conflicts for them, but when we open ourselves up to learning from  them they can teach us more than we could ever foresee.


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